39:52Aleksandar Vucenovic
CEO of Wolf+Bär Agency & CTO of SweetCode
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E156 · Jun 25, 2026Watch

In Episode 21 of WP Legends, we sit down with Jake Goldman, founder of 10up, which recently merged with the renowned product and app design agency Fueled.
Jake dives deep into his entrepreneurial journey, building one of the most respected agencies in the WordPress ecosystem, and shares what it really takes to grow, innovate, and lead in the digital space. From scaling teams to working with Fortune 500s and embracing strategic mergers, this episode is packed with value.
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In Episode 21 of WP Legends, we sit down with Jake Goldman, founder of 10up, which recently merged with the renowned product and app design agency Fueled. Jake dives deep into his entrepreneurial journey, building one of the most respected agencies in the WordPress ecosystem, and shares what it really takes to grow, innovate, and lead in the digital space. From scaling teams to working with Fortune 500s and embracing strategic mergers, this episode is packed with value. Let us know your thoughts in the comments! Visit us: https://seahawkmedia.com Explore Jake’s Projects: www.10up.com www.fueled.com You can follow Jake on: LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jacobgoldman X: x.com/jakemgold Timestamps: 1:10 – Intro 2:26 - Jake Goldman’s background & early career 5:20 - The evolving CMS landscape and enterprise projects 12:30 - Merging with Fueled: Why and how it happened 17:57 - WordPress in 5 years 19:56 - Lovable and Headless WordPress 25:00 - WordPress core updates 29:53 - Team size 31:45 - Jake’s advice for new entrepreneurs 34:40 - WordCamp and Final thoughts Music Credits: Valdez of Crenshaw by Terrace Martin Live Like Legends by Ruelle - Nightcore Remix
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